Episode 25 – Today Dom is talking to the Glasgow Dog Trainer, John Mcguigan. John tells us why you need to listen to your dog, how he became a dog trainer, why you shouldn’t be texting when you walk your dog and why you need to throw your flexi lead in the bin! You can also find out how you can get a FREE copy of Dom’s bestselling book How to Be Your Dog’s Superhero…
[1.08] What is unique about our podcast? [1.26] Why Alex the video guy a massive nerd [2.45] Who is Alexa and why is Alex interested in her [5.20] Why you don’t need the latest dog training gadget [6.46] How dogs learn [7.04] The worst dog training gadgets ever [9.15] Todays guest is John Mcguigan [9.30] The greyhound round [10.29] What is typical day like for John? [11.55] Why every relationship in our lives in special [12.15] Who was John’s first dog? [13.20] How did John become a dog trainer? [14.50] Why you need to listen to what your dog needs [17.05] 3 things you can do today to enjoy your dog walks more [18.18] Why you need to ditch the dog and bone when you are waking [19.30] Johns thoughts on the dreaded Flexi lead [22.09] The best advice John has ever been given [24.35] Where you can find out more about John [25.17] How does the Glasgow dog trainer like to chill out? [26.76] How to get a FREE copy of Dom’s book [28.18] Coming up next week…
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Dom: Hello me bonny bairns and welcome to “The Super Hero Dog Owners Show”. It’s not a new thing.
Alex: Very showbiz, this week.
Dom: It’s a new thing that I won’t be doing anymore, all right?
Alex: Isn’t that the last thing you said you wouldn’t ever do, ever again.
Alex: No, that’s true.
Dom: Welcome everybody. My name’s Dom Hodgson. I’m your host, I’m a dog trainer and I’m the author of the best selling “How To Be Your Dog’s Superhero” book. I’m joined by my very good friend and producer of the show, Alex the video guy.
Alex: Hello everyone.
Dom: Welcome to the van Alex, again.
Alex: Thank you.
Dom: Which you have set you, as you usually do in this expert manner. We’re all technically kitted out.
Alex: We are lit. We have several things recording. It’s a studio.
Dom: It is. It’s just a van … studio in a van. The first podcast in a van! So we’re led to believe anyway.
Alex: We’re yet to find one so I’ll take that
Dom: Yeah, definitely, Yeah. You seem to be … It’s kind of your profession demands you be quite technically savvy I suppose, doesn’t it?
Alex: Yes, yeah. I would agree with that.
Dom: Is that a chore for you or are you quite a gadgety type of guy or what, would you say?
Alex: I think I am a bit of a gadgety type of guy, which of course just means I’m a massive nerd. Massive geek if you couldn’t tell.
Alex: No, it is. I think it’s one of them things that I’m guilty of as well. You can very easily get sucked up into the world of chasing the equipment and the new gear that comes out and the updates and stuff. You can let it suck you up, do you know what I mean? In doing that you take your eye off the ball, the original thing, which is the film making, the video producing. With that being said I do enjoy having cool gadgets and stuff, yeah. For sure.
Dom: Okay. Have you invested in any cool gadgets of late?
Alex: Just being Christmas and over Christmas we got ourselves, me and Naomi got two of those Amazon Dots.
Dom: Beth’s been talking about these, tell me a bit more about these.
Alex: Other voice recognition devices might be available, I don’t know. Probably not actually. It’s quite cool.
Dom: There will be soon.
Alex: Yeah, there will be, yeah. It’s quite cool. It’s just this tiny little speaker you plug in somewhere in your house, connects to your wifi. If you’re in the room, if you’re in the vicinity you can just say, “Alexa, play my music” or “remind me to buy eggs” or “set a timer for 20 minutes” and she’ll do it, Just like that. You can plug her into other speakers and she can Bluetooth to other speakers as well, so you can play your music through it. There’s always new apps being added to it as well. There’s a Jamie Oliver one so you can say, “Give me a Jamie Oliver recipe” and she’ll read that out to you. It’s very sort of hands free. The more stuff you have in your house that is connected, like lights and central heating and stuff, the better it gets obviously. We don’t have that much stuff that is, so at the minute it’s just a posh hands free speaker if anything for music and stuff. It’s quite a cool bit of kit.
Dom: Yeah. Clever, clever, clever. I like it. I like the sound of that actually.
Alex: It’s an expensive timer. That’s the other way of looking at it.
Dom: Yeah. Sounds like it, yeah.
Alex: It’s cool, I like it.
Dom: It’s a good way for them to sucker you in almost so you end up … If you like it, which you obviously do. In time you’ll obviously buy more stuff that connects to it and a lot of it will make your life easier which is a good thing.
Alex: Of course, yeah. You can order stuff from Amazon directly from it and stuff obviously. Add this to my wish list or whatever.
Dom: Yeah, yeah.
Alex: Which you would expect. Like you say it, it’s very Amazon focused but that’s fine with me because it works. It’s easy, it’s convenient.
Dom: As a little aside can you think of anything off the top of you head you might want to add to an Amazon wish list?
Alex: What… like a book or something
Dom: Yeah. No, no. Can’t think of anything.
Alex: No, not at the moment. Ask me later.
Dom: “How To Be Your Dog’s Superhero” available from Amazon Audible or from my website … www.mydogssuperhero.com
Alex: I put all the titles in really quickly there for everyone to go to.
Dom: Interesting talking about the gadgets because we get … similar to what you said with the “you can be chasing the latest gadgets,” similar things happen with dog training as well.
Dom: You can get wrapped up thinking that you need to have a ‘clicker’ to help you to teach your dog to walk to heel or you need to have a ‘whistle’ to help you to do a recall. Those things can help without a doubt but they’re not going to guarantee you success and you don’t necessarily need them, I wouldn’t say. You’re quite capable of teaching your dog to do a recall or to walk to heel just by using some toys and some treats that you know that he likes. A ‘lead’ to stop him from running away and your voice. Your voice can be way more effective than a ‘clicker’ because you’re getting an emotional connexion with your dog. The more you talk to your dog the more your dog is going to enjoy it. Most dogs that I speak to … Most dogs that I train and my clients train.
Alex: Here’s another thought actually, I’ve been watching this show on Netflix called “Cosmos”.
Alex: It’s presented by Neil deGrasse Tyson. It’s all about the universe and science and stuff. It’s very dumbed down, it’s very visual. The one the other day was about evolution and stuff and natural selection. Obviously dogs are the complete opposite of natural selection because we’ve …
Dom: Unnatural selection.
Alex: Yes, we’ve totally turned them from …
Dom: Man made product aren’t they.
Alex: Yes, exactly. From wolves into Jack Russell’s and Shih Tzus and stuff.
Dom: Yeah, yeah.
Alex: I suppose if you think of it in terms of we haven’t always had ‘clickers’, have we?
Alex: We didn’t have clickers in the stone age. Not that there’s anything wrong with them.
Dom: No, nope definitely not, no.
Alex: You could argue that it is more of a traditional, I don’t know … You kind of almost going back to the roots of how does a caveman speak to dogs when they first started to domesticate them? Voice and stuff obviously, you know what I mean.
Dom: Yeah and give them scraps of food. Yeah, definitely not, that’s a really good point. Yeah, excellent. I like that a lot. It backups what I’m saying which is that you don’t need anything. You might need to know a method of teaching. You need to know that your dog is … How dogs learn, you know what I mean. You used to know that dogs learn through good things happening to them. The more good things happen, the more likely they’re going to be are to do something. You can control the good things that your dog likes. The toys and the treats that he likes and buying my book would be a great way for you to find out how dogs learn and how you can easily teach your dog using the things that he likes as well.
Carrying on from the gadget conversation. There are some things that many dog owners use that don’t help them in the slightest with their dog. Yet we still use them, you know? I’m thinking specifically at the moment of ‘flexi leads’. We had a incident a couple of weeks ago where me and Beth were walking through the village and the lady was walking with a dog on a ‘flexi lead’ in front and she just relaxed and she must of relaxed and had forgotten to push the button or something and the dog just wondered out across the road on this ‘flexi lead’. The car had to break and stuff and it was like ‘hearts in the mouth’ moment.
There’s loads, I did a Facebook post about this the other day and loads of people had commented saying that their dogs have suffered with lacerations on their legs and friction burns … Humans getting friction burns on their arms.
Alex: Oh honestly, yeah. I’ve had them before.
Dom: It was so dangerous. That’s something where you get into thinking that you’re going to give your dog a bit more exercise, which is fair enough. I know you’re worried about your dog running away from you but it’s much easier to teach your dog to play with you at the park. Then he can have a little bit of off leash time and then the on leash time, it’s time that he has to walk beside you. Most dogs I know …
Alex: Much safer.
Dom: Yeah, it’s much safer. Most dogs I know, they respond really well to that kind of structure. As somebody else who isn’t a big fan of ‘flexi leads’ either is our guest this week and he is the Glasgow dog trainer, John McGuigan.
Dom: He does a lot of stuff on social media John, I’m not going to talk much more about it now because I’m going to do a little intro you’ll see before the interview that we’re going to show you now. This is a really cool interview with the Glasgow dog trainer, so Alex, could you please press play?
Dom: Okay my guest today is a dog trainer and behaviourist from Glasgow, across the boarder where he helps dog owners and puppy owners with their training. He does new dog consultations and also more difficult issues such as aggression, separation anxiety. I first became aware of my guest when I saw a video that a mutual dog training friend posted on Facebook featuring John. He talks … Makes dog training very very easy to understand I think and yeah, so I was really keen to get him on the show, so we’ll say hello to John. Hello John McGuigan.
Dom: How’re you doing?
John: I’m good, thanks. Yourself?
Dom: Brilliant yeah, really good John. Thank you. Thanks for your time today as well. John we’re going to dive straight in with the Greyhound round, all right? This is a quick-fire round for anybody who doesn’t know you very well. I don’t know you very well so this is going to be interesting for me as well. Are you ready to go off the leash?
Dom: Brilliant. Your favourite superhero?
John: Wolverine probably.
Dom: Good one, good one. Yeah, with the beard I can see that, yeah. Do you prefer Indian or Chinese food?
John: Chinese every time.
Dom: Would you prefer to walk a Pug in the park or a Weimaraner in the woods?
John: A Weimaraner in the woods I think.
Dom: Red or white wine?
John: I don’t drink wine.
Dom: Okay, tea or coffee?
John: Tea always
Dom: What’s your favourite dog cartoon character?
John: Scooby-Doo’s the only one that immediately springs to mind but I actually can’t think of any other ones, so we’ll go with Scooby-Doo.
Dom: Scooby’s good. We haven’t had anybody say Scooby I don’t think, so we’ll take him. All right, that’s good John. I’ll give you eight out of ten for those answers, well done. Tell me, I know we’ve managed to squeeze an interview in today. Tell me about what you’ve been up to today with some of your clients.
John: I had two regulars and both of whom come to the workshops that I run as well, the “Positively Excellent Dog Trainers” workshops which started in January. Andy and Dave, Dave’s a Border Collie who’s just over a year and Eileen and Charlie. Charlie’s two or three year old rescue from Romania or Spain, one of the two. We’re working a lot on connexion, so the dog being with us at the park and we worked on that. Then I had another regular client, she’s got two big dogs and we worked on that aspect as well but there’s other things going on with her dogs as well but we worked on that today with them
Dom: Okay. Do you get a lot of that, was it connexion, where people are struggling on their walks?
John: Yeah. I think it’s actually the more that I look at it and the more that I train it, the more that I see it … It’s a big solution to a lot of the problems that we have.
Dom: Definitely yeah. I think everybody gets their dog don’t they because they think a dog’s going to complete the family and they want to enjoy the outdoors more with their dog but it often ends up becoming the thing that they hate doing. They hate taking the dog out, don’t they?
Dom: He’s either very reactive or pulling on the lead and all that kind of thing. It’s such a shame, isn’t it? This great thing that you can do if you can help someone to …
Dom: To enjoy the walk a bit more.
John: Yeah. It’s supposed to be a pleasure. Every relationship that we have in our life is supposed to be a pleasure. Supposed to be, you know? We are the ones with the big brains so we are the ones that are supposed to try and figure it out.
Dom: Yeah, definitely, yeah – I like that. Before we start to talk about what you’re up to at the minute John, what was your experience of growing up with dogs when you were a wee boy growing up in Glasgow?
John: I didn’t have any … I didn’t have … My first dog was when I was married in 2000. He was my wife’s, my ex-wife’s dog but she had a wee Collie who’s very similar to Watson, very similar to her. That was my first dog that I had but we didn’t have dogs growing up when we were children.
Dom: No, me neither. I didn’t neither actually no, yeah.
John: After that we got Boscoe who was a Bordo that I used to have. Then we got Kitty a short time afterwards, she was a Neapolitan.
Dom: So, You like your Mastiffs eh?
John: Yeah, yeah.
Dom: Yeah, yeah – good stuff.
John: Then after Kitty … Kitty died five years ago and I was four years without a dog. Between working full time and my last job and doing my dog training, I was never in the house.
John: I didn’t have a dog for four years until I got Watson last year.
Dom: When did you … What was the moment when you went from being just a dog owner, dog lover to wanting to become a dog trainer or be a dog trainer?
John: It Kind of happened fairly gradually. I used to use very old school dominance based aversive training techniques on my old dogs, on Boscoe and Kitty and have first time experience with the fall out that we get from that. I went to behaviourist in Glasgow and she kind of helped me along a little bit, put me on the right lines and I just started reading more about it. The more I started reading, the more I started training my own dogs. Then people at work would ask me for help and then it would be their friends and their family would be referred too.
I had no idea when I started doing this that I would be in the position that I am just now. I thought it would be something that I would kind of potter away with until I was ready to retire. I did retire from my previous job at 54, so it’s not retirement age. It was something that I would probably … At the time when I started, I was thinking I’ll just keep this going for the next 20 or so years and then just do it as a kind of hobby in order to earn a little bit extra cash but I had no idea it would be what it is today. Which is pretty cool.
Dom: Yeah, it is indeed, Yeah – it’s nice. We never know where life’s going to take us, do we? It’s nice when it throws up a career working with dogs, it’s certainly been an eye opener for me and really really enjoyable.
What are the most common problems that you come across in your day to day behavioural training work, is there a most common problem?
John: I think if I was to put it down to kind of bare bones, it’s people not taking into consideration what their dog needs, expecting their dog to fit in with their lives and not giving the dog what they need in order to do that. I think that lies at the foundation of so many problems, whether it’s loose lead walking, recall, reactivity, destructive behaviour in the house, nervousness in the care, shyness over strangers. I think it’s just not taking into … I’m trying to think of an example that it’s actually not the case, so I need to think of something because I don’t think it would be a 100 percent but I think that’s the foundation for the vast majority of the problems that we have. That we don’t take the dogs needs into consideration enough.
Dom: Do you think it’s just because they don’t know?
Dom: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree with that, yeah definitely. There are very few people when you tell them, not because we have any kind of wisdom just because we are a bit more experienced … But when you tell them what their dog needs and what they can do to make their lives a bit easier, they’re quite happy to do it aren’t they.
John: Yeah and I think it’s Maya Angelou that said … I might be wrong and I’m paraphrasing here but it says “We do the best that we can and when we know better, we do better”. I think the vast majority of people are out there interacting with their dogs in the best way that they know how.
Dom: Yeah, yeah.
John: That’s about us educating people and making people less ignorant and ignorance is not bad word, it’s just they don’t have knowledge.
Dom: No, no, no. Yeah, you don’t know what you don’t know do you, yeah.
John: Because that’s what we were, 5 or 10 years ago you know.
Dom: Yeah, definitely yeah. I was the same … I’ve been there too.
We talked before about walking the dogs and how people struggle to enjoy the dogs walk. It’s such a big part of why many people have got a dog you know, so they can exercise him a bit more. Can you give me … I like to people to go away with some kind of practical things that they can put into place if they can, if it’s safe for them to do so with their own dog.
Can you give me three things you can recommend dog owners can do today that would help them have more control and enjoy their walks more?
John: Absolutely slow down, slow down, just slow down and when you think that you’re slow, slow that down again and then slow down more. The example I always give is to … if you ever watch two cops walking a beat and the pace that they walk at, they’re not going anyway.
John: They’re out for a walk because they’ve only got so much beat to cover in the right hours. They’re not actually going anywhere, they’re just out for a walk effectively. It’s that pace that I think we need to walk our dogs at more often than not and it gives the dog time to use their nose and explore and if we were to do a walk like that for 45 minutes, your dog would be completely comatosed most of the time when they come back in because of all that stimulation. Allows us to slow the dogs body down as well and actually get the thinking part of their brain activating rather than the part of the brain that just reacts. So slowing down first and be present would be the second … I know these are kind of woolly, slightly abstract.
Dom: No, no, I can see that, yeah.
John: Be present, so put your phone away. Don’t put on your iPod, it’s time for you to be out there with your dog. We bring our dog into our life in order to enhance our lives but that means we need to enhance their lives as well. Be present with your dog. The third thing I would probably say is, when you notice good behaviour which happens all the time, acknowledge it and reinforce it. Whether that’s with a scratch in the ear or with the hips or a rub of his chest or giving him a treat or something like that or just letting the walk continue.
Those are the three things that I think if people did that from that start … I think most owners are desperate to get their dog out to get exercise and they think it’s the amount of running around that the dogs does. But that’s not in a dogs ethology, they don’t run around all the time.
Dom: I hear what you’re saying. I agree with it totally, yeah. I remind myself to slow down sometimes as well. It’s like kind of getting to the park, when I get to the park, get the dog exercised and get back.
Dom: So the dogs anxious to get there and then when he gets there he’s interested in everything else accept the owner isn’t he … Often but not always but often.
Dom: Especially other dogs and things like that.
You had an interesting video John I saw about the ‘flexi lead’ yeah?
Dom: Tell us your thoughts … It’s not often something that I mention very much is the really practical stuff like the leads people should use, that can make their lives easier and help them to connect more with their dogs. Tell me about the ‘flexi’ and your thoughts on that.
John: As you’ve seen, I hate them! I think that they have a limited use for management. They have extremely limited practical applications for some training. I was speaking to a couple of my colleagues and they were saying that they use them for some aspects of the dressage or key work to music. That’s a really really limited specialist application of a training tool. That’s fine if that’s what they want but that’s not what I’m teaching and what most pet owners are teaching. I think it’s an illusion of control.
John: I don’t think that they offer you any control. The dog doesn’t know how much lead that they have and it’s not teaching your dog to be off lead because of the way the spring is loaded and the dog constantly feels pressure on his or her collar. The last thing about it is that the … In teaching a connexion between you and your dog you have to be very aware of your body language. Because it’s this pistol grip that we hold like this … The way that our bodies work as soon you hold something in your hand like this, you activate a whole bunch of muscles in your body that are counterproductive to connected walking with your dog. These are habitual behaviours that we have done our entire lives. Grabbing a door handle and pulling it, picking up a cup.
John: It’s just any time you’re holding that you want to pull … Near enough always pull it towards you.
Dom: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
John: That’s not what we … In my experience that’s not we need to be doing when we’re teaching our dogs to walk with us when we’re out. That’s why … That’s a brief summary.
Dom: Yeah, no no – I like that a lot. I think they’re awful as well. I’ve never used one for many a year and I certainly discourage people from using them. They’re just not safe at the end of the day, the amount of times that you see people getting themselves into a situation with a ‘flexi’.
Dom: I haven’t had it happen to anybody I know but accidents and stuff as well with the burns, friction burns stuff.
Dom: Awful things, awful things anyway. Great advice, great advice John – thanks for that.
We’re coming to the end of the interview now John. What’s the best bit of advice you’ve ever been given, dog related or anything else.
John: I know when I’ve seen Ian Dunbar at seminars and he was saying … This goes for any relationship that we’re in, it’s supposed to enhance our lives. So why would you bring an individual into your life that you don’t want to spend time with. Whether that’s your children, your spouse, your friends, your dog. Being, again mindful of that. That we have relationships and they are supposed to enhance our lives and if they’re not enhancing our lives then it’s time for those to go.
Dom: Mm (affirmative)
John: I think it’s pretty sound advice that we can apply it to lots of different stuff and that’s just not to do with your dogs.
Dom: Yeah, yeah, yeah – definitely yeah.
Is that something that you … How do you find when you’re teaching that message, do your clients get it quickly, do they start to see the relationship differently do you think?
John: I think most of them do. Most people that will come to me know the style of training that I do.
John: That’s through the information that’s on my website, that I put out through my Facebook and my social media. I get a lot of people that are coming to me because they already want to train their dog that way.
John: I say to them ‘yeah I know that you don’t want to put a metal collar on your dog to connect him but still say no to him and maybe squirting him in the face with a water pistol’. That’s still along that spectrum, if you like and your dogs your pal you know?
John: You wouldn’t do it to your friends.
Dom: No no.
John: The thing is that dogs are captive, regardless of what anybody says. She stook with me.
Dom: Yeah yeah.
John: I’ve got a front door and she’s on a lead with me and she’s got nowhere to go – she is a captive in my house. So I have to look after her.
Dom: Yeah yeah, definitely yeah. No, I like that, I think you’re right. I think a lot of that what you’re saying is about the clients coming to you, so they know … You’re showing them by example aren’t you.
Dom: What they … Hopefully they’ll look at you …
Dom: They’ll look at what you’re doing on Facebook and with your other clients and they’ll say, that’s the kind of relationship that I want with my dog, do you know what I mean and that’s what brings them in. So that’s brilliant, now that’s fantastic.
John where can people go to find out more about you and what you’re up to?
John: My website glasgowdogtrainer.co.uk which I’m in the process … If I ever get round to it of revamping. My Facebook: Glasgow Dog Trainer and Behaviour Consultant. I’m on WordPress as well, YouTube and Twitter but I’m not very active on that.
Dom: No bother. I’ve put all those links in the show notes as well so people can check you out and check out the videos that you do.
John: The social media buttons are available through my website. If you go onto my website they are on the homepage and you can get all the stuff.
Dom: Awesome, awesome. I’ll also put the link on for the video for the ‘flexi lead’ as well for people can check that out.
When you’re not making videos and helping out people in your area with their dogs, how does John like to chill out and relax?
John: I like reading, I read a lot. I’ve been doing Brazilian jujitsu for a long time … I’ve kind of falling away from it for the last few months because I’ve been injured but I’m trying to get back into that as well. That’s what is great because you absolutely need to be present when you’re doing that because you get thrown so … You have to concentrate. It’s an hour or two hours out of my week where I can go on the night, I have to only think about that, I can’t be anywhere else. Which is good for the head.
Dom: Brilliant. Good life lessons through the jujitsu, excellent, excellent, brilliant.
Well thanks very much for your time John, I really really appreciate it and I’m sure everyone watching will get a lot of value from what you have shared with us today.
Thanks again, take care of yourself.
John: You’re welcome. Thank you.
So Alex, how awesome was that?
Alex: Awesome. It was awesome.
Dom: Really good! Really enjoyed speaking to John, he’s somebody I’ve watched quite a bit on … His posts on social media and he’s always talked a lot of sense. He talks a lot to dog trainers as well, helping dog trainers out, what he thinks they should be doing. Yeah, really cool guy, really knowledgeable and somebody I would like … Maybes we’ll have a road trip up to Scotland some time.
Alex: That would be cool, yeah.
Dom: And meet some Scottish dog trainers, that would be cool wouldn’t it.
Alex: That would be awesome.
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Alex: Awesome. You should indeed.
Dom: So next week Alex. We’re going to have a break from the interviews. I’ve enjoyed chatting with you today for a change.
Alex: So you’ve had enough now.
Dom: No it’s been good craic. So I think next week, we might just have a bit more craic again me and you.
Alex: Yeah, yeah.
Dom: I had an interesting phone call from a chap who is having trouble with his springer and maybes we’ll talk through that and the advice that I gave him and some people from home may be to use that advice as well.
So thank you for watching.
Alex: Definitely that sounds good to me.
Dom: Thank you for watching. Thank you Alex.
Alex: No problem.
Dom: And if we don’t see you though the week, we’ll see you through the window.